Page 1 of 1

W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:30 pm
by makenmend
question for Ron,I'm well into getting my strips cut and have layed out templates to start on the W13-6. To avoid the visible butt joint I'll be butt joining my templates,then I thought I'd mount the full template on a 1*12*14'
When you started laying/glueing your strips did you outline the one edge then set the strips to that edge and secured the subsequent strips with brads til the glue set ?? was any clamping neccesary, hope that makes sence.

MM

W13-6

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:52 pm
by jem
If i were building it, I'd assemble/splice the panels from cheap ply and use them as one long template. I'd then stagger the strips randomly throughout the length of the panel.

I think that would look better. But that's just my opinion.

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:05 pm
by Oldsparkey
I agree with Matt , use the pattern as a temples and if you don't want the joints to show then do the scarf joints.

Chuck.

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:59 pm
by tx river rat
MM
I would but my temp lets,and splice them. then trace around it on a board or ply
Then lay down wax paper,then brad nail the first strip, apply the gue then pull the next strip tight on the end brad it,work toward the other end. after you get enough strips down and they dry lay your tenplete on top and mark your other lines ,because they will be under the excess strips,
Hope this helps.
Ron
I braded on the 12 inch centers and didnt have to clamp

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:34 am
by makenmend
Thanks guys there's a lot to be said for KISS instead of overthinking and making things more complex.This is why it's so great to be able to benefit from ya'lls experience.

MM

ps and I"m sure you don't mind if I have future need of guidence.(probably soones than later)

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:34 am
by tx river rat
MM
There is a simpler way. Get mat to draw your panels out full length,he says that is possible.
Then just lay out the bottom of the panel,strip it then lay the top out,cut that panel and use it to mark the other panel.
Ron

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:52 am
by jem
tx river rat wrote:MM
There is a simpler way. Get mat to draw your panels out full length,he says that is possible.
Then just lay out the bottom of the panel,strip it then lay the top out,cut that panel and use it to mark the other panel.
Ron
Drawing the panel is easy with any plans: Just splice together the 2 panel halves like you were building it from ply and use that as a pattern. Use cheap ply or even press board for the pattern wood.

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:28 pm
by craiggamesh
MM,

I did mine similar to Ron. (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2428) However, I spliced my panels first, which were templates made of cheap ply, and did the quality assurance measurements. Then I attached strips to the templates. I then used a flush cut router bit to trim the strip panels to the exact shape as the template. I did the same for my Sabalo to maximize marine plywood usage. However, I used oriented strand board (aka chip board) as templates to lay out on the expensive marine ply. I used one sheet of strand board ($6.87) and saved a sheet of $50 marine ply. It also allowed me to make any possible mistakes on the cheap strand board. The reason, other than cost, I chose the strand board was that it was thicker which gave the ball-bearing on the router bit more edge to ride on than the 1/4 inch ply I used for the strip pirogue.

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:20 pm
by tx river rat
Thats what I love about these forums,so many ways to skin that cat,I started thinking,I know look out, cutting templates instead of splicing with glass just take a patch and screw to the temps to hold them together.
Ron

Re: W13-6 SS&G tx river rat advise

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:03 pm
by jem
tx river rat wrote:Thats what I love about these forums,so many ways to skin that cat,I started thinking,I know look out, cutting templates instead of splicing with glass just take a patch and screw to the temps to hold them together.
Ron
long as it held it's orientation, no problem with that at all.