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Post by scottrunnr »

It's been a while since I posted anything on my progress. About a month ago Mick dropped off the screen for a bit and I wondered why. He popped back up and said he'd been working on a bunch of "niggly stuff" that slowed him down. Now I know exactly what he meant! :x

I've been working on reinforcing the cockpit, installing hatches, filleting the frame, building/installing scuppers, doing end pours, etc. Very slow progress! Below you'll see what I've been up to as well as a few questions for all.

1. Cockpit finished with three hatches installed, pad eyes installed for seats, foot braces installed, and all reinforcing.

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2. While I thought Mick's side scupper idea was great, I chickened out and went with the standard under-deck version. It's my first build and I'm not as handy as Mick at recovering from mistakes. So I decided to take the standard route...mostly. I decided to do round scuppers. I had some 2 inch fiberglass tubes on hand that I could use.

The end of the tube to be attached to the hull is cut at an angle to match the hull. The other end (for the deck) is a straight cut. It's attached to three pieces of ply. The top 2 have round holes drilled that are slightly larger than the tube. The tube fits in them. The bottom one is slightly smaller than the tube. The tube rests on it. All are attached with epoxy/woodflour.

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The three pieces of ply on the hull side are glued to the hull. Same deal, two holes bigger, one slightly smaller. The hole in the hull itself is slightly larger that the tube.

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The tube is then placed in the ply which is already glued to the hull and attached with epoxy/woodflour. Just like filleting.

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I'll use epoxy/woodflour to attach the ply on top of the tubes to the cockpit when I install it. That'll fill in the any space between them.

What do you guys think about this technique? Do you think I should use fiberglass in anyway or is what I've done with the epxoy/woodflour enough?

Here are a couple of photos of the frame and scuppers in place:

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The scupper in the bow on the right is a bit low. I'll fill the space with epoxy/woodflour when installing the cockpit.

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3. I thought all this talk comparing who had the most clamps was just male machismo. I know better now. You guys are right, you can never have enough clamps! :P I don't have enough and have to wait overnight until they free up for use. What a pain!

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4. Here's a dry run of the deck pieces put in place. It cheered me up when all the niggly stuff was getting me down! The large hole in the stern deck is for a hatch. This area will be for storing the Striped Bass and Bluefish we catch. It'll have a sealed bulkhead to keep the fish stuff from leaking into the rest of the boat and a drain plug in the stern for washing it out (Matt's ideas :D ).

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Still lots to do before I can hit the water. But, the end is in sight!!! I'm hoping to do a trial run in the water in 1 week.
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Post by hairymick »

Hi Scott,

Beautiful work mate, I wish my finished product was that pretty.! :D

I love your idea with the scuppers. The added ply will spread the load a lot and I don't think you will need any more than just the woodflour/epoxy. Matt will be able to shed much more light than I however.

I think that is going to be one great fishing boat and will draw a lot of envious looks when you get her wet. I wouldn't mind betting that she wont be the only one of her kind for very long.

Keep up the good work mate and keep ya chin up. The end is in sight now :D :D :D man I bloody hate those little fiddly bits (especially hatches)
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Post by jem »

you're going to need to get fiberglass all around the tube. Looks like PVC or some other plastic piping.

Epoxy won't stick very well to it in the long term. If you consider it a "core" and get fiberglass all around it, then it should be ok.
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Post by dangermouse01 »

Hi Scott;
Looks great. If you are "sure" that it is figerglass tube, you should be good. You can try to twist one with your hands to see if the epoxy bonded to it. Or push down on it.

Where did you get the retangular hatches in black, I was looking for that type with the cam lock for my WF but could only find white, gray and dark gray. And the dark gray isnt that dark. I found them at Bass Pro's online.

Gee, and I thought I was going to be "cutting edge" when I finally got to that point, between you and Mick, I guess I will just be following the pack now. :lol:

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Post by jem »

whoops. I didn't read the part where it was a fiberglass tube.
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Post by hairymick »

Oh yeah, I meant making the bloody hatches. I really like your bought ones. I wish they were available here.
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Post by scottrunnr »

The tubes are definately fiberglass. Below are a couple of close-up photos of the tubes. You can see the glass fibers. I twisted on my installation and everythiing held very firm.

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I'll probably put a fiberglass patch on the exterior of the hull where the 4 scupper exit holes are just to reinforce the area. I think the epoxy/woodfloor filleting and the triple layers of ply are holding the tubes in place pretty well. What do you guys think?

I got all three hatches at kayakfishingstuff.com. The round one (Hobie pop-up hatch) on the front of the cockpit has a nice hinge on it. They have an amazing array of stuff. Here's the link to the rectangular hatches on their site: http://kayakfishingstuff.com/Merchant2/ ... y_Code=htc

Trust me Dangermouse, I'm a novice here feeding off the great advice from everyone else. :wink:
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Post by jem »

Very cool.

Here's a neat tutorial about making your own tubes: http://www.aerosleeves.com/Articles.asp?ID=108

I thought about trying to make a canoe paddle like this. But paddles are pretty reasonably priced so I never bothered trying it. I might make a mast for small sail for the canoe I'm almost done with. 8)
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Post by scottrunnr »

Or, if you don't want to tackle making your own fiberglass tubing (like me), you can order fiberglass tubing at this site: http://www.mgs4u.com/fiberglass-tube-rod.htm
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Post by scottrunnr »

Matt,
just out of curiosity, what would it take to put a small mast/sail on my kayak? Something like a windsurfing mast/sail. I'm sure I'd need a little center-board as well.
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