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Re: North Wind
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:34 pm
by tx river rat
OOne more question Mick
What is your take on the rudder
Ron
Re: North Wind
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:52 pm
by hairymick
On Southwind?
Not necessary. I built it as an experiment and have been just too lazy to take it off.
I think they are probably more trouble to make - well than they are worth. For my purposes, (fishing and photography) and just paddling for the heck of it, I am thinking now, if a boat needs a rudder, there must be something wrong in the design.
I am trying to keep my builds as simple as possible and frankly, I see a rudder as just another add on gimmick that has the potential to fail.
Re: North Wind
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:48 am
by jem
Forgot to mention:
North Wind is designed to paddle in multi environments including twisting streams. So it has more rocker and will likely need a rudder....just like the Kruger Sea Wind.
Re: North Wind
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:18 am
by FlaMike
I'm still thinking that a rudder on Southwind would be great in conjunction with a sailing rig.
Mike S.
Re: North Wind
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:49 pm
by tx river rat
Matt
I went back and re read Micks Southwind build, Am I correct that if you set the bolts in the hull everything else could be rigged after you built the boat?
This boat will require a strong back?
Ron
Re: North Wind
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:04 pm
by jem
I recommended that if you think you might use a rudder, to prep for it before installing the deck. It would make installing a rudder much easier.
Check out Duck Works:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/p- ... /index.htm . I helped design that set.
No strong back required.
Re: North Wind
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:46 pm
by tx river rat
Matt
Does the back deck go to a peak like the Freedom did.
Ron
Re: North Wind
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:52 pm
by jem
Yes but it's a much lower peak and the cockpit is long. So you don't really lean on it.
Re: North Wind
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:37 pm
by Graham
Now come on guys surly if you set out and build a canoe. You can Knock up some rudder gudgeons, a small lenth of stainless drilled and bent around a small piece of tube. Epoxy the tube in place, set up two with the bolt between to aline. When dry polish to suit your craft finish, personaly i would try brass and solder the tube in place.
Nothng like polished brass on agood looking craft

Matt if i get the chance i will send you a design of a canoe rudder my father developed in the 70s its cheep and simple and folds up when you go over an obstical in the water

Re: North Wind
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:15 pm
by jem
Hey that would be great!
I keep wanting to develop a rudder to go with the gudgeons but life seems to always be getting in the way of fun projects.