OOne more question Mick
What is your take on the rudder
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Re: North Wind
On Southwind?
Not necessary. I built it as an experiment and have been just too lazy to take it off.
I think they are probably more trouble to make - well than they are worth. For my purposes, (fishing and photography) and just paddling for the heck of it, I am thinking now, if a boat needs a rudder, there must be something wrong in the design.
I am trying to keep my builds as simple as possible and frankly, I see a rudder as just another add on gimmick that has the potential to fail.
Not necessary. I built it as an experiment and have been just too lazy to take it off.
I think they are probably more trouble to make - well than they are worth. For my purposes, (fishing and photography) and just paddling for the heck of it, I am thinking now, if a boat needs a rudder, there must be something wrong in the design.
I am trying to keep my builds as simple as possible and frankly, I see a rudder as just another add on gimmick that has the potential to fail.
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Re: North Wind
Forgot to mention:
North Wind is designed to paddle in multi environments including twisting streams. So it has more rocker and will likely need a rudder....just like the Kruger Sea Wind.
North Wind is designed to paddle in multi environments including twisting streams. So it has more rocker and will likely need a rudder....just like the Kruger Sea Wind.
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Re: North Wind
I'm still thinking that a rudder on Southwind would be great in conjunction with a sailing rig.
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I went back and re read Micks Southwind build, Am I correct that if you set the bolts in the hull everything else could be rigged after you built the boat?
This boat will require a strong back?
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I went back and re read Micks Southwind build, Am I correct that if you set the bolts in the hull everything else could be rigged after you built the boat?
This boat will require a strong back?
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Re: North Wind
I recommended that if you think you might use a rudder, to prep for it before installing the deck. It would make installing a rudder much easier.
Check out Duck Works: http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/p- ... /index.htm . I helped design that set.
No strong back required.
Check out Duck Works: http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/p- ... /index.htm . I helped design that set.
No strong back required.
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Does the back deck go to a peak like the Freedom did.
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Does the back deck go to a peak like the Freedom did.
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Yes but it's a much lower peak and the cockpit is long. So you don't really lean on it.
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Re: North Wind
Now come on guys surly if you set out and build a canoe. You can Knock up some rudder gudgeons, a small lenth of stainless drilled and bent around a small piece of tube. Epoxy the tube in place, set up two with the bolt between to aline. When dry polish to suit your craft finish, personaly i would try brass and solder the tube in place.
Nothng like polished brass on agood looking craft
Matt if i get the chance i will send you a design of a canoe rudder my father developed in the 70s its cheep and simple and folds up when you go over an obstical in the water
Nothng like polished brass on agood looking craft

Matt if i get the chance i will send you a design of a canoe rudder my father developed in the 70s its cheep and simple and folds up when you go over an obstical in the water

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Re: North Wind
Hey that would be great!
I keep wanting to develop a rudder to go with the gudgeons but life seems to always be getting in the way of fun projects.
I keep wanting to develop a rudder to go with the gudgeons but life seems to always be getting in the way of fun projects.
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